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  A big problem for JW's in the UK?

  by Jim Dee in

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  from the sky news web site - 23.06.05giving the cold shoulderdoorstep salesmen who cold-call are to be targeted with the launch of a new scheme banning them from certain areas.

  residents who feel harassed by their tactics will work with police to create no-entry zones for them under a plan by the trading standards institute.. .

  the no-go zones could cover anything from a street to an entire estate and will also help combat so-called "distraction burglaries", which have been linked to cold-calling.. persistent doorstep sellers would then be reported to the authorities for follow-up action.. ron gainsford, chief executive of the institute, said: "people are sick and tired of uninvited doorstep callers.

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  I heard about this on local radio this morning - they're gonna trial it on some housing estates in South Yorkshire - but didn't say which ones.
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  Catholicism

  by Chia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to a catholic church this weekend with my boyfriend.

  he was raised catholic and was thinking about going back to church, but after the service decided that his belief system was now too different for him to attend services anymore.

  as for myself, it stirred an unexpected reaction in me.

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  expecting the spiritual experience to by caused by other people, rituals, books, works, buildings etc. These are all just tools.

  they sure caused an experience with me - a painful one by being bludgeoned over the head with the tools!

  that said, i do agree about discovering your own relationship with your god, no-one can do that for you - thats why Ieft the church i was at.
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  Catholicism

  by Chia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to a catholic church this weekend with my boyfriend.

  he was raised catholic and was thinking about going back to church, but after the service decided that his belief system was now too different for him to attend services anymore.

  as for myself, it stirred an unexpected reaction in me.

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  Evanescence

  lol about the money just put an empty envolope in the colelction plate, works like a charm

  I just picked myself up off the floor - must try that some time!!!

  catholic churches sound great down under too - am I just living in the wrong country? wonder if its like the church here still has a huge headache from the reformation and the rest..

  hi pubsinger - like you I'm from the indipendent Republic of Yorkshire
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  Changes in the DANIEL'S PROPHECY book

  by observador in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been told that a number of changes has been made to the daniel's prophecy book between the first edition (or printing) and the latest edition of it.

  the funny thing is that these changes are inconsistent among the media (paper book and editions of the wt lib cd).. so, if you get the daniel's prophecy book you have in your home and compare it to wt lib cd 2004, you will only be able to confirm some of these changes.

  case 1: p. 101, line 1:.

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  Looks like they're really making sure they've got all possibilities covered on this!!

  just think - when they have to alter their interpretation of Daniel they'll scratch their heads "Hmmm.. which versions closest to the latest teaching....?"
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  Catholicism

  by Chia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to a catholic church this weekend with my boyfriend.

  he was raised catholic and was thinking about going back to church, but after the service decided that his belief system was now too different for him to attend services anymore.

  as for myself, it stirred an unexpected reaction in me.

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  The question is: Should church members try to reach out to each other and strangers? At our church, after Mass, the priest stands outside and shakes the hands of those who are in a hurry to leave. Other people stand around and talk or go to the social hall for coffee and doughnuts and to fraternize. Again, I don't think it's insincere. Moreover, there are many other opportunities where you can get to know the people a lot better. If the Catholic Church was as cold as some claim, I certainly wouldn't attend.

  Kenneson, you hit the nail on the head when you say should church members try to reach out to each other and strangers. All the rest sounds great too - I think the problem we have in the uk is that 'great british reserved stiff upper lip' personality - this sort of fraternizing doesn't occur in many places around here - think thats what made the JWs look so appealing, they're friendly and there when the organisation you depend on has let you down.

  just make sure you don't believe that 'accept all our teachings or accept none of them' crap.
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  Catholicism

  by Chia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to a catholic church this weekend with my boyfriend.

  he was raised catholic and was thinking about going back to church, but after the service decided that his belief system was now too different for him to attend services anymore.

  as for myself, it stirred an unexpected reaction in me.

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  I'm not sure that it's realistic to say
  
  
  
  "I went to a Catholic church or an Anglican church and it felt cold, insincere, unwelcoming or whatever and so ALL Catholic, Anglican, Baptist or whatever churches must be like that."
  
  
  
  In effect making a blanket assessment of a denomination by an impression of one congregation.

  Not sure if you was having a go at my comment about confirming Chias experience of a catholic church - if you was please read what I put in the brackets:

  From my experience

  i know that there is different churches thats why i put that in. I still stand by what I said about the whole churchs way of operating ie ruling through guilt and fear etc.

  On the thing about not talking in church (catholic ones at least) thats cos everythings made out to be so damn holy that you daren't talk - to me its just another part of that guilt/fear/keeping you in your place front - you not worthy to approach god, you have to go via the priest - outside church no salvation cos you can't reach god by yourself.
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  Catholicism

  by Chia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to a catholic church this weekend with my boyfriend.

  he was raised catholic and was thinking about going back to church, but after the service decided that his belief system was now too different for him to attend services anymore.

  as for myself, it stirred an unexpected reaction in me.

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  of one being the father.

  of one being with the father.

  who's Hosanna?
  'Hosanna' means 'save us!'

  thought I'd better correct it - just in case some weird cult comes along and uses it as a proof that their teachings are right and everyone else is wrong!

  Chia

  I was raised a Catholic and can confirm (from my experience at least) it is all pretty insincere. They ruled by guilt and fear - after all, if you leave how do you get your sins forgiven? We were never encouraged to read or study the Bible, teachings were to be accepted without question, no salvation outside the church (I think the official stand has changed on that now - but at ground level? not really).

  I always had the sense that people were watching and whispering about what others did. If someone left, as I eventually did, they wouldn't miss you - you're just an insignificant part in a massive money making machine - oh if you had money they LOVED you!! (if not, tough). It took me over 10 years to fight through the guilt and finally leave - and now some of my family hate me for leaving - the bloody hypocrites aren't even 'practising' Catholics!!!

  Thats partly why I joined this forum. I think my experience of the Catholic church is similar in some parts to being in and leaving the JWs and I'm finding a lot here to help me work through my lingering guilt, worries and pain. Thank you all!

  Thanks. I feel like I can face the rest of the day now!
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  Please help teach my Jewish friends

  by Booker in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am interested in jehovah witness theology, and i at this time write to a jewish news group.

  many of my jewish friends are starting to belive in the new testement.

  i was hoping that someone could reply to my public post below, so that me and my jewish friends can understand why we should become jehovah witnesses.

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  Booker

  Have you heard of a book called 'Messianic Christology' by Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum? It goes through all the prophecies in the OT and shows how they relate to Messiah, the trinity etc. I strongly recommend it if you can get a copy.
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  What are your priorities in life?

  by JH in

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  the witnesses say that they put the kingdom first in their lives, and that the rest of the world puts pleasures and money and sex first.. a kind of black and white picture of them and the world.. so, you evil people .

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  God. getting my messed up life back together. friends.
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  Changes in the DANIEL'S PROPHECY book

  by observador in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been told that a number of changes has been made to the daniel's prophecy book between the first edition (or printing) and the latest edition of it.

  the funny thing is that these changes are inconsistent among the media (paper book and editions of the wt lib cd).. so, if you get the daniel's prophecy book you have in your home and compare it to wt lib cd 2004, you will only be able to confirm some of these changes.

  case 1: p. 101, line 1:.

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  case 4 (extended) reads:

  'There, Jesus presented the value of his human sacrifice to his Father. Jesus' baptism in 29 CE had anointed, or set apart, that heavenly spiritual reality represented by the Most Holy of the earthly tabernacle and of the later temple. - Hebrews 9:11, 12'

  I got my copy a couple of years back - I asked for it from JW's who were doing studies with me.